ACN: Bernie can you please tell us
what made you decide to direct and produce this documentary?
Bernie Dwyer: I decided to make this documentary; “The Day
Diplomacy Died”
as far back as 2003, soon after a book called “The Dissidents”
was published here in Havana. This book featured interviews with
former Cuban state agents who had infiltrated various groups
that were working under the direct influence of diplomatic staff
at the US Interests Section office in Havana.
Shortly before the book was published there had been a public
outcry in the international press because of the arrest and
jailing of 75 so-called independent journalists, librarians and
trade unionists. This action by the Cuban government was used to
exploit the old chestnut peddled by the right-wing press that
there is no freedom of speech or assembly in Cuba.
However the same foreign press journalists that condemned Cuba
did not rush to interview the state agents to get their side of
the story. So I decided that their story had to be told. The
documentary has been a long time in the making because I
suffered a serious illness and had to abandon the project for a
couple of years. However, at last it is ready.
ACN: Why did you decide to tour Europe and launch the
documentary?
B.D: I spent quite a time waiting for the right moment and place
to launch the film.
As there are Cuban and US
interviewees I had to arrange for subtitles in both Spanish and
English and I did this in Ireland.
I was then invited to launch the documentary at a city centre
cinema in Dublin. So on the 29th of March this year we had a
special presentation at the Screen Cinema in Dublin for an
invited audience followed by a question and answer session.
About 150 people attended. These included people from the
political, community, trade union and arts and cultural world in
Dublin. It was a very successful evening leading to interesting
questions and discussions. This is often the best part of a
presentation with the director present as questions usually
cover topics as far ranging as the medical system in Cuba to
Fidel Castro’s health to the urban agricultural practices being
developed in Cuba.
After that, there were several showing around Ireland including
Galway in the west and Co. Down in the north of Ireland.
ACN: What countries did you visit?
B.D.: After that I went to the European Solidarity with Cuba
meeting in Sofia, Bulgaria. This was a particularly successful
presentation as there were more than 20 European countries
represented. In fact after the showing the president of the
Bulgarian Friendship with Cuba group presented a copy of “The
Day Diplomacy Died” to the heads of each delegation.
A tour to Denmark, Sweden and
Norway followed which took in seven showings
in Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm and other Swedish cities.
In May I went to Detroit to take part in the US Social Forum.
More than 15,000 people attended that event. However it was very
fragmented and although we had a workshop to present the
documentary, it only attracted 50 people.
ACN: What was the people’s reaction to the documentary?
B.D: The reaction was always interesting. In a lot of cases
people didn’t really understand the situation because of the way
Cuba is presented in the foreign media but after some
explanation they began to realize the role the US diplomatic
staff was playing in interfering in Cuba’s internal affairs.
In my opinion, the discussion and
question and answer session is one of the benefits of this type
of documentary. It gives people an opportunity to ask about the
reality of Cuban life and it also helps to explain the history
of US involvement in trying to bring an end to the Cuban
Revolution. This is why I use a lot of archival material as well
as personal testimony to clarify the situation.
ACN: You had at tremendous success on your previous tour to the
US with
your documentary Mission Against Terror on the Cuban Five, are
you planning to tour the US with your new documentary?
B.D: There is tour planned with
“The Day Diplomacy Died” in October for the west coast of the US
taking in San Francisco and Los Angeles as well as other cities.
The US is such a huge place that
this time I will tour it in segments. The last time in 2005 I
did 28 venues in 31 days right across the US. Yes, it was very
successful but I don’t think I could do that again health wise.
ACN: Is there any relationship between the Cuban Five and this
issue?
B.D.: Yes, the cases are just two sides of the same coin. The
Cuban Five are imprisoned in the United States for the same
reasons that the four former Cuban state agents interviewed in
“The Day Diplomacy Died” spent years and years of their lives
posing as counterrevolutionaries by infiltrating groups
supported by the US Interests Section in Havana. That is to
protect their people and their country from on-going attempts to
destabilize the Cuban Revolution.
In the case of the Five, they
infiltrated terrorist groups in Miami which are already
responsible for the deaths of more than three thousand Cuban
people and the injuries of another two and a half thousand.
Their mission was to report to the Cuban government on the
on-going and future plans of these groups so that steps can be
taken to put a stop to such illegal and horrific acts. The Cuban
government has constantly asked successive US administrations to
put a halt to this violence against Cuba emanating from Florida
and in the absence of any action taken against the Miami
terrorists by the White House, they had no option but to send in
their own people. Unfortunately when the Cuban government
presented their finding to the FBI, the Cuban Five were arrested
in Miami and the terrorists still
freely walk the streets.
The Cuban state agents featured in “The Day Diplomacy Died” were
working in Cuba against the so-called “internal opposition”
set-up and supported by US diplomats in the US Interests Section
in Havana from the very beginning except for a period under the
presidency of Jimmy Carter.
So yes, there is a huge similarity between the work of the Cuban
Five in Miami and the work of the former Cuban state agents in
Cuba with the same goal; to put a stop to US interference in
Cuba’s sovereign right to develop its own society at the behest
of the Cuban people.
ACN: What is next?
B.D.: Right now I am working on distributing “The Day Diplomacy
Died” as far a field as possible. I have sent copies to more
than fifty Members of the European Parliament in Brussels. There
is a crucial vote coming up in the European Union on September
10th. There will be a review of the EU ‘Common Position’ on
Cuba. This position was introduced against Cuba by former
Spanish President José Maria Aznar in 1996 with the support of
then British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, and George W. Bush.
After the arrests in 2003, the ‘Common Position’ was hardened
and is now up for review. I am hoping that at least those voting
on the issue will take half an hour to view the documentary to
hear the other side to the story.
Although there are many subjects I would love to explore, making
documentaries is very hard work when there is no money available
and the sort of films I want to make doesn’t attract any
backers. That’s another reason it takes such a long time to make
even one.
However I do have a long cherished project to make a documentary
on Cuban
Hero Julio Antonio Mella’s mother who was an Irish woman from
Cavan. It’s a wonderful story and maybe that will be my next
work.